baseband-devel Digest, Vol 5, Issue 7

Zaki Ud Din fyproject14 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 9 05:38:24 UTC 2010


Hello,

I never thought I would become such a popular figure on your mailing lists,
be it for the wrong reasons. I am sorry to have emailed you that question,
but honestly I am new to Ubuntu. I have done quite a lot of programming on
Windows, but this seems to be quite a different world, and that is why I
email you even my seemingly childish questions for you to you, as I am sure
you wont have any trouble solving them although it does takes some seconds
of yours.

Regards,
Zaki.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:47 AM, <baseband-devel-request at lists.osmocom.org>wrote:

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>   1. Re: Trouble building Osmocom (Sylvain Munaut)
>   2. Re: Trouble building Osmocom (Zaki Ud Din)
>   3. Re: Trouble building Osmocom (Huseyin Turan)
>   4. Re: Trouble building Osmocom (Nordin)
>   5. Re: Trouble building Osmocom (Huseyin Turan)
>   6. Re: Trouble building Osmocom (Nordin)
>   7. Re: Trouble building Osmocom (Nordin)
>   8. Re: Trouble building Osmocom (Sylvain Munaut)
>   9. Re: Trouble building Osmocom (Holger Hans Peter Freyther)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sylvain Munaut <246tnt at gmail.com>
> To:
> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:57:22 +0200
> Subject: Re: Trouble building Osmocom
> Looking at gnuarm.com, it looks like you have a x86_64 toolchain and
> try to run it on i686.
> Honestly I don't want to be mean but if you can't see what's wrong
> with that, osmocom-bb might not be for you quite just yet.
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Zaki Ud Din <fyproject14 at gmail.com>
> To: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org
> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:00:20 +0500
> Subject: Re: Trouble building Osmocom
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your reply. I am really sorry I did not get your point in the
> mail where you asked me to perform the different checks. Though I have
> written those commands and have pasted their output below.
>
>
> zaki at zaki-desktop:~/gnuarm-4.0.2/bin$ file ./arm-elf-gcc
> ./arm-elf-gcc: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
> zaki at zaki-desktop:~/gnuarm-4.0.2/bin$ uname -a
> Linux zaki-desktop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC
> 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> Awaiting your response,
>
> Zaki.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Huseyin Turan <huseyinturan at gmail.com>
> To: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org
> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:51:06 +0300
> Subject: Re: Trouble building Osmocom
> Sorry;
>
> file ./arm-elf-gcc
> ./arm-elf-gcc: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nordin <bouchtaoui at gmail.com>
> To: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org
> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:26:08 +0200
> Subject: Re: Trouble building Osmocom
> On 8-6-2010 15:57, Sylvain Munaut wrote:
>
>> Honestly I don't want to be mean but if you can't see what's wrong
>> with that, osmocom-bb might not be for you quite just yet.
>>
>>
>
> Maybe he's good in programming embedded stuff, this has purely to do with
> Linux specific builds and nothing to do with coding/decoding gsm stuff.
> By the way, he can always learn...
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Huseyin Turan <huseyinturan at gmail.com>
> To: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org
> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:16:50 +0300
> Subject: Re: Trouble building Osmocom
> Thank you very much.
>
> I have succeded to compile. I will try to deploy on C118.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nordin <bouchtaoui at gmail.com>
> To: Sylvain Munaut <246tnt at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:24:35 +0200
> Subject: Re: Trouble building Osmocom
> Silvain,
>
> Yes I agree with you, but I just want to note that we have to encourage
> beginners to keep trying and learning.
> Especially when one comes from the Windows world like me, where everything
> builds magically in Visual Studio (debugging is a joy in there ;-)
> Never programmed in Linux, never used git, gdb, vim, etc... and now, I
> begin to rock a little bit, thnx to OpenBSC and you guys  ;-)
>
>
>
> On 8-6-2010 17:07, Sylvain Munaut wrote:
>
>> Maybe he's good in programming embedded stuff, this has purely to do with
>>> Linux specific builds and nothing to do with coding/decoding gsm stuff.
>>>
>>>
>> I never meant otherwise in my previous message. But basic knowledge /
>> problem solving of the build system is a requirement IMHO, especially
>> in this project (that includes both host and target code with even
>> some shared code between the two).
>>
>> I also looked up his history on the various mailing lists before
>> posting this and this is not the first build problem with GSM related
>> projects so I would expect him to learn from previous experience.
>>
>>
>> Also, when I see a message with :
>>
>> ----
>> zaki at zaki-desktop:~/gnuarm-4.0.2/bin$ file ./arm-elf-gcc
>> ./arm-elf-gcc: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
>> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
>> zaki at zaki-desktop:~/gnuarm-4.0.2/bin$ uname -a
>> Linux zaki-desktop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17
>> 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
>> ----
>>
>> And he still asks what's wrong ? An embedded programmer that doesn't
>> know he can't just run binaries from one architecture onto another
>> architecture ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> By the way, he can always learn...
>>>
>>>
>> I know, that's why there is a "quite just yet" at the end. That's
>> exactly what I implied: that he learns that first and then come back.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>     Sylvain
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Nordin <bouchtaoui at gmail.com>
> To: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org
> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:27:53 +0200
> Subject: Re: Trouble building Osmocom
> Congratulations! :)
>
>
>
> On 8-6-2010 17:16, Huseyin Turan wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> I have succeded to compile. I will try to deploy on C118.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Sylvain Munaut <246tnt at gmail.com>
> To: Nordin <bouchtaoui at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:07:42 +0200
> Subject: Re: Trouble building Osmocom
> > Maybe he's good in programming embedded stuff, this has purely to do with
> > Linux specific builds and nothing to do with coding/decoding gsm stuff.
>
> I never meant otherwise in my previous message. But basic knowledge /
> problem solving of the build system is a requirement IMHO, especially
> in this project (that includes both host and target code with even
> some shared code between the two).
>
> I also looked up his history on the various mailing lists before
> posting this and this is not the first build problem with GSM related
> projects so I would expect him to learn from previous experience.
>
>
> Also, when I see a message with :
>
> ----
> zaki at zaki-desktop:~/gnuarm-4.0.2/bin$ file ./arm-elf-gcc
> ./arm-elf-gcc: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped
> zaki at zaki-desktop:~/gnuarm-4.0.2/bin$ uname -a
> Linux zaki-desktop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17
> 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
> ----
>
> And he still asks what's wrong ? An embedded programmer that doesn't
> know he can't just run binaries from one architecture onto another
> architecture ...
>
>
>
> > By the way, he can always learn...
>
> I know, that's why there is a "quite just yet" at the end. That's
> exactly what I implied: that he learns that first and then come back.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>    Sylvain
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Holger Hans Peter Freyther <holger at freyther.de>
> To: baseband-devel at lists.osmocom.org
> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:31:46 +0800
> Subject: Re: Trouble building Osmocom
> On 06/08/2010 11:24 PM, Nordin wrote:
> > Silvain,
> >
> > Yes I agree with you, but I just want to note that we have to encourage
> > beginners to keep trying and learning.
> > Especially when one comes from the Windows world like me, where
> > everything builds magically in Visual Studio (debugging is a joy in
> > there ;-)
> > Never programmed in Linux, never used git, gdb, vim, etc... and now, I
> > begin to rock a little bit, thnx to OpenBSC and you guys  ;-)
>
> Hi Nordin,
>
> I wouldn't have the skills I have now if it wouldn't be due to others
> help. And of course I know file and uname and it is new to others. The
> biggest problem I have is judging is someone is just lazy, or if there
> is someone who is slow to start but eager to learn.
>
> how would you figure that out?
>
> z.
>
> PS: Would you be willing to help me to go through the documentation and
> provide some more getting started information? At least two have
> downloaded a wrong toolchain, I am pretty sure this will happen again.
>
>
>
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